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Japanese red maples
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Posted by hocky VIC Aust (My Page) on Wed, Oct 1, 03 at 6:57
| Anyone tried to propagate these lovely trees? By seeds or by cuttings or by grafting? I need some advice on how to do this and anyone who has a success story. |
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RE: Japanese red maples
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Most Japanese red maples will grow from seeds but they may not come true to the parent. In our area, the growers graft all of the species maples. There are several large trees growing in our area and I could send you a couple of cuttings if we can send them by mail. If you are very patient and don't mind waiting a couple of years for them to grow, I am sure that I could find some seeds. These would be easier to mail. sps |
RE: Japanese red maples
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- Posted by hocky VIC Aust (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 4, 03 at 21:54
| SPS, thanks for your reply. When you say cuttings, do you mean they are just cuttings or have they rooted? If cuttings only, can they grow if put in the ground or in a pot or do they need to be grafted? I can find seeds here, but they don't seem to want to germinate. Maybe I'm doing it all wrong, needs stratification they say? I stratify them by coolng them in the outside ground over winter, not in my fridge! I am just hoping that at least one of my cuttings will sprout some roots rather than just new leaves only and then die off. Sorry you are not allowed to send me any live plants or even seeds I think. They are very negative about foreign plant diseases, potential weeds and insect eggs, etc. |
RE: Japanese red maples
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Hocky, I was in USA last year and visited a garden where the owner was interested in propagating trees. He told me that there was a small 'window of opportunity ' for rooting Acer cuttings under mist around the second week of April . I don't have facilities for misting but decided to try a few cuttings in a sand bed ( shaded ) in my polytunnel , covering them with a large plastic bottle. I used 3 cuttings of current year's growth , about 4 inches long , from a young tree I was particularly keen to propagate (grown 2 years earlier from seed collected by a Japanese friend at the Emperor's Tomb) The largest cutting put out roots in about 2 months and is now a healthy plant .. the other two were smaller cuttings and didn't root. I will certainly try again next year with other cuttings. I believe that they do best from young plants. Hope this helps . Jane |
RE: Japanese red maples
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- Posted by hocky VIC Aust (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 14, 03 at 5:35
| Hi Jane, Thanks for your reply. Your method sounds interesting. I may try it later on when I have more time. Most of my cuttings were very healthy looking for a couple of weeks and some put out new leaves and opened closed leaves and looked like they would root. However, after this time was up, they dried up and shrank and died! Hope I learn something from this sad experience. I will get back to you later on if some of them survive the cold nights and now hotter days. The nights are about 12C and the days we are getting around 25C. Its mid Spring now. I am also trying out rose seeds and have succeeded in getting many young seedlings in my pots. Don't know what rose they will be as they were bees pollinated. All random crosses of all varieties. Hope to stumble on a nice unknown cross with bright or dark red or striped roses. I am quite rose bitten and have about 30 plants in pots, in the ground, normal and standards. They are all budding now, but some buds have been spoilt by the recent cold and wet conditions. I am also delving in large strawberries, cherries, plums, apples, apricots, persimmons, lettuce, snow peas, grapes, peaches and so on. Only a small 800sq.mtr plot with house and the back garden is ridden with roses and fruit trees! |
RE: Japanese red maples
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| Are you interested in the experience of propagating? Or are they hard to come by - hard to get - in your area? M.D. Vaden of Oregon |
RE: Japanese red maples
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- Posted by hocky VIC Aust (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 17, 03 at 4:44
| They are not rare, but are expensive here. Thats why I am interested in getting them the cheaper way i.e. get cuttings and try to root them. Yesterday I saw a 1 metre plant which is a grafted specimen and it cost A$61 so its not as bad as the A$300 to 500 ones I saw earlier on. Perhaps the more expensive ones are like that due to the expensive pots they are grown in. The A$61 ones are in small plastic pots which have to be repotted when you get home or put into the ground. They are reddish and finely serrated leaves. |
RE: Japanese red maples
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| Basically, you can't really get the red weeping varieties from seed. That's why those are grafted onto the rootstock of the "straight" plant. Seeds from the little ones should become green leafed upright trees. That's why the little ones for sale are expensive. They are expensive here in the USA too. About $100 USA dollars for a 3 foot tree (about 1 meter). |
RE: Japanese red maples
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| Here's a photo we put on our site that was taken at Portland's Japanese Garden...
There's your maples in the fall - that's white sand in front. |
RE: Japanese red maples
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| I have just taken cuttings from a few people intown that were so nice and offered me them. I dipped them in rooting powder and put them in soil in the house and also one outside. I also put one in a glass of water with rooting powder in the bottom ( I read someione tried this and it worked) I am wondering will these grow up ( If they root) to look like thie parents since they werent grafted but there parents were and they are an actual cutting and not just seed???? Thanks Tanny |
RE: Japanese red maples
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| Wow. I didn't know they were so expensive. I'm a newbie in gardening, and I recently decided to learn more about it. Since then, I've learned that the style of the house and garden is heavily influenced by mediterrean style. The gargen has one, but I didn't realize it was part of the mediterrean style and was thinking of uprooting it. Can somebody explain why its mediterrean. After all, it sounds more asian than mediterrean. |
RE: Japanese red maples
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- Posted by hocky VIC Aust (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 28, 05 at 22:10
| Hi Marvin, they are Japanese originally is what I can tell. Their names are all Japanese too. Except for the red canadian Maple. Thats a giant tree and very messy with falling leaves. I am again trying to propagate by seeds from red serrated and weeping varieties and hope they spring out soon. What amazes me is why the new branches grow downwards in weeping types like its gravity pulling? My grafted ones are not weeping so I bend the branches down and they look like weepers, but the new twigs developing all grow upwards so my small tree looks clownish! |
RE: Japanese red maples
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- Posted by hocky VIC Aust (My Page) on
Mon, Oct 31, 05 at 18:12
| Am now waiting for my new red maple seeds to germinate in a pot. It may be warming up too fast now, but still 1 month of Spring left. Will try other seeds now like lychees which have not germinated and will try the exotic asian durian seeds with the huge prickly fruits with heavenly sweet and smelly fruits. |
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