| Could someone please help me? I was searching a book of phrases for expressions about roses and thorns and came across these two:
"Il n'y a point de roses sans épines"
"Point de rose sans épines"
My somewhat limited French does fine by me except for the meaning of "point" in these two phrases (although I question also the grammatical correctness of "de roses" in the first). I would appreciate a translation. | 
