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Seed Swaps with the US are on again!

Posted by crazylady Norfolk (My Page) on
Tue, May 16, 06 at 7:53

I don't suppose this is common knowledge in the US yet, so perhaps one of the US members visiting here will pass it on by posting on the Seed Exchange. The North American Rock Garden Society have been working with APHIS for some time to try and work out a system for getting small quantities of seed into the US without the problem and expense of phytosanitary certificates. A new system is now up and running, or at least up and ready to run. This is how Joyce Fingernut of NARGS explains it:

"The APHIS web page for plant import permits now has a live link for Small Lots of Seed. Please go to:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ppq/permits/plantproducts/nursery.html
and click on the Small Lots of Seeds Program. From there, you can click on "PPQ Form 587" (a form that is used for many kinds of plant permits) to download, print, and fill it out. Page 2 of the form has special instructions for the small lots of seed permit. There are only two lines that require special wording; the rest is your personal information. Then the completed and signed application needs to be faxed or mailed to the number or address at the end of the instructions (page 3).

[Alternatively, there is a new ePermit available, so that you can do all your work online, but you must first go through the process of eAuthentication. For more information on that, check: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/permits/learn_epermits.shtml]

You will receive a permit to import small lots of seed (according to the requirements listed on the permit), and several green & yellow mailing labels, with the address of the Inspection Station already printed on them.

Once any US resident has this permit, he/she can bring in small packets of horticultural seeds (such as the ones from seed exchanges, or private seedhouses) without asking the overseas/Canadian exporter to provide those costly phytos.

As the importer, the person in the US will send with the seed order:
- a copy of your import permit (xeroxed)
- one green & yellow label
- and, to be helpful to your exporter, a label that is clearly printed with your own name and address.

Your overseas/Canadian exporter (whether an organization's seedex, or a seedhouse, or a friend) will place inside the package with your seeds (which are labeled and listed according to the requirements on the permit):
- the same copy of your permit
- the label with your name and address (perhaps clip it to the permit, so it can easily be found later)

The exporter will paste the green & yellow label on the outside, to direct the package to the Inspection Station. At the Station, your seeds will be checked and then resealed, and your own mailing label will be pasted on the outside of the shipment. The whole thing will be returned to the mail system, and forwarded to you."

In practice, this is probably how it works:

(1) The person in the US gets an import permit and some special labels.

(2) They send a copy of the permit and the labels to the person outside the US they want to exchange seeds with, and a label with their own name and address on.

(3) The person outside the US sends the seeds to an inspection station in the US, using one of the green and yellow labels, also enclosing the copy of the permit and the label addressed to the person they are exchanging seeds with.

(4) The inspection station checks the permit and the seeds, then sends the seeds on to the US recipient, using the label enclosed with the seeds.

It's a bit more complicated than it used to be, but it does mean it's legal to exchange seeds with people in the US again, so people outside the US should be allowed to post on the Seed Exchange Forum now - unless GW will provide a new International Seed Exchange Forum.

Here is a link that might be useful: Small Lots of Seed Import Requirements


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RE: Seed Swaps with the US are on again!

  • Posted by deeds1 the far SWUK-9 (My Page) on
    Tue, May 16, 06 at 14:02

Thank you for that - excellent news


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RE: Seed Swaps with the US are on again!

Oops! I see I put an extra 'n' in Joyce Fingerut's name. Apologies to Joyce.

I've also posted on the Suggestions Forum asking for an International Seed Exchange Forum. If you want one too, please go over and add a post. Perhaps a lot of people asking for it will get us one now!

Here is a link that might be useful: Suggestions Forum


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RE: Seed Swaps with the US are on again!

Cool Thanks Crazy Lady!


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RE: Seed Swaps with the US are on again!

Sorry the original post on the Suggestions Forum has been deleted accidentally. I've reposted on the thread called "Crazylady - Can you repost?"

GW are now considering the idea of an International Seed Exchange with their legal department - so the more posts asking for it, the more likely it is that we'll get it.

Please go over to the new link below and add your voice.

Thanks

CrazyLady

Here is a link that might be useful: Request for International Seed Exchange


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This might sound Dumb.... Sorry...
So People in the US can now send seeds here? If so That's GREAT News...


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RE: Seed Swaps with the US are on again!

ninecrow - People in the US have always been able to send seeds here. But for the last four years or so, it's been illegal for them to import any seeds into the US without a Phytosanitary Certificate, which takes ages and costs a fortune, and is not practicable for the sort of quantities of seed individual gardeners would be exchanging.

The change is that now a new scheme has been set up, which allows people in the US to receive seeds from other countries by getting a Permit instead of a Phytosanitary Certificate.

If you're interested in having an International Seed Exchange, please go and add a post to the thread about it on the Suggestions Forum.


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I've posted in the Suggestions Forum... Hope this will Help...


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APHIS must be praying that the thousands (probably hundreds of thousands?) of people who currently import seeds by the illegal "post and pray it doesn't get confiscated" system (and I haven't yet heard of a single case that got confiscated) don't switch to this system. They would be absolutely swamped!


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Yes, I was thinking they probably have no idea how many people will want to import these 'small lots of seed', which includes seed orders from companies outside the US. They'll probably charge for the permit/inspection/labels when they find out how many they'll need. So we'd better get swapping straight away, before they change it again!


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I am planning to move to the UK for school next year, probably Bristol. Am I allowed to bring my bulbs with me? I had planned to bring lots of seeds, including Giant Sequoia seeds, if I can get them. If I get stopped at the airport, do they just confiscate them, or is there a fine, or jail time?! lol.


 
 

 

 


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