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cottage garden and my cherry tree
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Posted by crebourret west-midengland (My Page) on Sun, Jul 31, 05 at 7:37
we moved into this new house where the garden need desperate attention. in the back garden there's a cherry tree past it's best (was severely pruned last year by previous tenant, and i don't think the tree really trive after that!)anyway, around the cherry tree there a circle of ground where several type of plant are planted. mostly for a roquery... i would like to transform this roquery/weeds bed into a cottage garden inside this circle (it's quite big) i've been told that because of the tree any flowers would compete with the roots for any goodness. is it true, if yes what can i do? the soil around there is really really dry, so it would neeed some fresh stuff putting in anyway (like i said the garden is been left alone for decades)
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RE: cottage garden and my cherry tree
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| Some cherry trees just bide their time then start suckering if they've been assaulted by mad pruners. A raised bed could help. Perhaps a brick edging. And a load of compost. It might sound odd - but check out which weed species are growing in the bed-to-be. They'll indicate fairly well just what sort of soil and conditions you're facing. Possibles for planting: wallflowers, epimediums, bulbs - snowdrops, daffodils and jonquils, perennial asters, erigeron, ferns, labrador violets, Alyssum saxatile (or whatever it currently is), corydalis, cyclamen. Because the roots aren't likely to be too far down you may need to think of adding compost annually and doing very little digging once you have the weeds under control. With that in mind such treats as Vinca minor are probably better left where their rambling ways can be curtailed. If the tree is in need of disguise - a clematis or so, or a sedate honeysuckle or rose may be just what you'd like, too. |
RE: cottage garden and my cherry tree
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| Planting anything under a tree can be tricky. Tree roots really do suck out lots of water and nutrients. If it is desperately dry under your tree you'll have to decide whether you want to be watering every summer or plant things that can take the dryness. Any spring bulb is good and autumn bulbs will also probably do well. Having flowers, or even green, in the middle of summer will be difficult. This year is dry, but probably not the driest yout garden will ever experience. Think about crocosmia, sedum, cistus, etc, in the sunny areas it should be quite easy to find arid loving plants. In the dry shady areas, it will be difficult to have anything grow right through the summer. Vinca minor will, geranium macrorrhizum, ajuga if it isn't too dry, lamb's ears if it isn't too dark, euonymus fortunei. How about a bench where you can sit in the shade, and a few potted impatiens? If the tree is past its best, maybe cut it down and start again :) |
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| There is a huge untrimmed cherry tree locally, a flowering thing. I was suprised to see cherries on it. It was covered this year. For about a couple of weeks. The birds had them all -I imagine it was the birds. I walked past it the other day and they were all gone. Every one. What got me was flowering cherries almost never fruit. Or did the ones I grew up with need fertilising with the male of the species? I don't know what to suggest with the garden idea. I am sure the pruned tree will recover. It wouldn't hurt to give it a top dressing of bone meal or some such. Soil under a tree does get tired. And of course it is bound to get dry. Think what the leaf acreage is likely to be. And just that narrow conduit to get what the heavens send up there to it. Don't cover the base of the trunk whatever you do. |
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| A single cherry tree can pollinate itself, but many flowering cherries are bred to be sterile and produce no cherries. I have three cherry trees. One is the native species Prunus avium and it produces copious cherries every year. It has a wide spreading canopy, has been radically pruned once and is now maintained as best I can until a replacement goes in. The cherries are eaten by the birds and are just about all gone now. Another very similar tree produces fewer flowers and fewer cherries and has a more upright growth. It also suckers like mad and is due for the chop once its replacement grows a little more. Lastly, the regulation Kwanzan cherry (Prunus serrulata cultivar) which was planted by the house builders in the centre of each front garden. It has profuse double pink flowers but never cherries, although the original species does produce dark coloured cherries. Not an attractive tree exceppt for the two weeks of flowers. |
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