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Posted by Sean_McKinney N. Ireland (My Page) on Mon, May 30, 05 at 4:59
Oh, I asked before it fell!
I was thinking of using it as a quaratine or hospital tank and or a plant/lily tank, but I have had a cracking idea. If it will fit, the basis for one of two upflow filters for the fish pond. The filters will be upflow veggie filters of the american skippy style. This thread really deals with only the filter that will be in the above cistern, the other tank I will have to make, a "box liner " inside a concrete flagstone shell.
The ONLY place I can put filters is 'in' the return stream, there is NO space anywhere else that I am allowed to use.
Here, in section, is the proposal.
The "floater trap" is basically a piece of rigid plastic around the outlet from the tank, set up as a boom, to keep the likes of azolla in the tank. It works, I have already used the idea else where.
Flowrate through this thing, hmmmmmm not sure about.
The tank will hopefully go where T3 is shown below
but I am not sure if it will impinge on the area occupied by T2, ignore T1, if it does then it will have to take the full stream flow which is 1633 UK gph. Now the stream will untimately be set up with two pumps which will work on an either or basis so that normally only one is ever running. The pump supplying 1633 UK gph, an aquamax 10000lph will run when I want a 'visual stream' running. When I dont want the visual stream effect an aquamax 5500lph, or smaller, will be used to keep media etc ticking over. There is no possible alternative to this method of operation as the pump/stream plumbing is under several tons of concrete which aint going anywhere. The smaller ticking over pump is to save running costs, I 'hear' about those.
Oh, as birds bathe in the stream there will be some form of bird safe grating over the 'plug hole'.
Re cleaning, it is likely that I will have to lift the media out to clean the bottom of the tank as the adjacent wall is 9" of soild concrete block which will be 'awkward' to drill for more than 1" pipe. Plus there will be no room for a valve and a valve CANNOT go outside the wall as it would be too exposed to my delicate feet and shins so the alternative is a recessed screw on pipe end. Whilst these are available, I think, I am not sure it will be practical. The 'seal' of the type I has tried in 2" washes out of place if there is a flow and I dont want to loose the full tank of water. I will however be thinking about this
If I do decide to fit purge drains how do I drill pipe holes through 9" thick solid concrete block wall?
I think I have seen 1", maybe 1.25", masonary bits in the likes of B&Q and I think either my 850W Bosch or my Dad's old big Black and Decker could handle these but that limits me to either 3/4" or 1" pipe which might be a bit small. Incidently there are drains for 2 tanks under consideration and for one the hole might have to be drilled off the square so it may be deeper than 9".
I dont think my pocket will stretch to hiring/buying a core drill and the power unit and I am dubious about being able to drill a ring of parallel holes 9", maybe more, deep and then removing a core. The latter was hard enough through 2" flagstone.
So any other suggestions or stick with 3/4" or 1"?
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RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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| fantastic idea.....does your mind ever stop? |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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| I don't understand what you are talking about Sean, but I do admire your energy and enthusiasm (not to mention your recycling efforts)!! |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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hi sean. u have to much time on your hands??????????. -------------fishmaduk----------david--------------------- |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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- Posted by AJC_1 8 the fens (My Page) on
Tue, May 31, 05 at 8:40
| LOL sean your baffling the antives again. good idea, that tank is best used for a holding tank/plant tank, the ridges in the bottom make for a bad filter. one idea that occured to me tho, did you consider using it as an atuo feed, ie sink it at water level with the ball valev so the pond tops up atuo maticly when the level goes down? |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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Aj, there's no where to sink it, level with the pond, its all above or below unfortunatly. I have jap matting that I reckon I can cut to make horizontal sheets to fit the ridges, assuming of course jap matting can be cut with scissors, I havent tried yet. David, you are right I dont think you would want 2 90 years old semi cuckoo parents which is why I have the time on my hands. I understand now why oldfolks end up in homes. |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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edit of the above, as posted it sounds abrupt. It should have read David, you are right I do have too much time on my hands but I dont think you would want my 2 90 years old semi cuckoo parents which is why I have the time. I understand now why oldfolks end up in homes. |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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hi sean. it,s good there have a son that will look after them and not put them in a home so i knock u not because they looked after u when u needed them so now u return the favor. well done sean. -----------fishmaduk--------------david----------------- |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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| I found long handle pruning secuters (short blades)good for cutting jap matting. It's murder on your hands if you do not have good leverage! Score first. I found we needed two to do it. One to push it up towards the cutter, the other to cut. I don't envy you cutting fiddly bits for the preformed base of the tank. I've been told a grinder is best, but didn't have one. I tried a jigsaw... ha. |
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- Posted by AJC_1 8 the fens (My Page) on
Wed, Jun 1, 05 at 8:25
| Linda is right Sean, it isnt easy to cut jap matting with scissors, I found a sharp knife is best way, I used an old bread knife. |
RE: look what fell off the back of a rubbish sk
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- Posted by Phil_V Bedfordshire (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 2, 05 at 10:33
| Sean, just a thought. If you are limited to 1" piping then rather than increasing the diameter of the piping could you plumb it such that you had TWO one inch pipes coming through the wall that then T-ed together on the filter side? Just a thought... Phil V |
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