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2nd Filter design

Posted by dfinn England (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 25, 05 at 9:05

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback on the other filter design so I have now thought up a 2nd design.

http://www.djfroadshows.djworld.org.uk/filter2.JPG

Water enters at the top pipe and exits into the bottom of the 1st bay. The outlets are like that of the skippy filter to give a swirling action.

http://www.skippysstuff.com/minime1.jpg

Water then flows up through loosly packed course foam and maybe brushes like this.

http://www.skippysstuff.com/minime3.jpg

Then the water flows along into the 2nd chamber for biological filteration. It flows down and out in the same way to give a swirling action.

The water then flows through flocor and maybe some jap mat which will be heavily aerated. A 40mm outlet sends the water back to the pond.

For the pipework ive found these:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/cat.jsp?cId=101311&ts=75002

They are only 21.5mm so if flow rate is restricting then I could easily double up the outlets.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Daniel


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RE: 2nd Filter design

Just a quick comment on the pipework, in our local B&Q they have plenty of 40mm pipes and fittings such as tank connectors, T juctions 90 degree bends etc. You would get everything you need for under a tenner probably and 40mm is better than 21.5.

My pump is 1800 gph and the pump chamber is fed by two 40mm pipes so I doubt you're going to get much flow through 21.5.


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RE: 2nd Filter design

  • Posted by dfinn England (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 25, 05 at 10:59

Hi,

Cheers, Im going to B&Q on Saturday so hopefully going to get what I need.

Are these fittings solvent weld? Do they sell any decent tubs/ contaners for filter building?

Thanks,

Daniel


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RE: 2nd Filter design

Hi,
Thanks for the feedback on the other filter design so I have now thought up a 2nd design.

Water enters at the top pipe and exits into the bottom of the 1st bay. The outlets are like that of the skippy filter to give a swirling action.

Water then flows up through loosly packed course foam and maybe brushes like this.

Then the water flows along into the 2nd chamber for biological filteration. It flows down and out in the same way to give a swirling action.

The water then flows through flocor and maybe some jap mat which will be heavily aerated. A 40mm outlet sends the water back to the pond.

For the pipework ive found these:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/cat.jsp?cId=101311&ts=75002

They are only 21.5mm so if flow rate is restricting then I could easily double up the outlets.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Daniel


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Filter design MkII

Daniel, sorry I forget even if I knew, what flowrate are you thinking of? What is the intended drop from the 40mm outlet from barrel 2 to the pond surface or to the end of the 40mm pipe if the 40mm discharges into open air?


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RE: 2nd Filter design

Hi,

The 40mm tank connectors and pipe I use are push fit but don't leak or anything in my setup.

As for containers, they have quite a few different ones in there for various uses. Probably a water butt type thing would be suitable if you want it to be circular. They have a few different ones outside I think.


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RE: 2nd Filter design

  • Posted by dfinn England (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 25, 05 at 11:33

Hi,

fitting sizes changed to 40mm as advised flowrate is a tricky one. At first one 600lph pump will power it but then the flowrate when i add a new pump will be around 2000lph. but will regulate this if 40mm outlet wont take it.

drop will be about 50cm.

Thanks,

Daniel


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filter

  • Posted by dfinn England (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 25, 05 at 11:40

Hi,

How much do their water butts sell for and how big are they?

Thanks,

Daniel


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RE: 2nd Filter design

Daniel I am sure I posted prices in one of your other threads. Re 40mm and 2000lph of gravity return, 40 mm should handle that unless the pipe is long and or convoluted. One thing you may need to be careful of though is placing the outlet too close to the water surface so that it sucks in air as well as water, that can significantly reduce the flow rate. I may have more than 2000lph returning through 32mm but I would need to check the flowrate and that isnt convenient at the moment.


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RE: 2nd Filter design

  • Posted by dfinn England (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 25, 05 at 17:10

Hi,

As for the air sucking into the pipe thing would you suggest fixing a 90 degree elbo onto the tank connector on the inner side of the filter pointing down into the water with a small length of pipe on so the pipe is under water?

Does that make sense?

Thanks,

Daniel


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RE: 2nd Filter design

that's one solution


 
 

 

 


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