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Thinning out plants
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Posted by RayG UK (My Page) on Fri, Sep 2, 05 at 7:54
Advice needed on thinning out excess pond plants, without destroying fish eggs or fry which maybe in the plants. Is there a good time?
Many thanks
Ray |
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RE: Thinning out plants
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| Realistically you are going to kill something be it fry, nymphes or shrimp etc, just thin in the evening and leave it to drain over the pond is about the best you can do. If you have a stream flowing into the pond you might be able to wash them off and then leave over ....... |
RE: Thinning out plants
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I plan to thin mine out to remove excess oxygenators some time in October, when newts have left. Plan to transfer plants to plastic dustbin one late afternoon, rinse/shake them in the bin before leaving at pond side. Then pour water & contents back in pond.
A question I have is do all the newts leave the pond, I have all sizes of newtlet, some still tiny, will these also leave the pond.? Does any one have baby newtlets in their pond all year? I also still have a few tadpoles making no effort to transform into froglets! |
RE: Thinning out plants
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| Anyone with any ideas/advice?? thanks |
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- Posted by Bill_D Wiltshire, UK (My Page) on
Fri, Sep 9, 05 at 7:58
| I don't know about newtlets, but I believe some tadpoles over-winter in the pond, and develop into froglets early the next year. |
RE: Thinning out plants
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Bill is correct saying that some tadpoles stay until the following year before they change to froglets, but Mikes have already changed to newtlets. I think that what you will find is that they may not live in the pond but will stay close by it. If you have a waterfall with rocks round you may find they hide there as it is shallow but damp. I think you will find it difficult to see them though. I haven't seen my newts this year but previously I have seen them in the layers of the waterfall. Anyanka has a lot of newts so if she sees this she may be able to answer it better.
Alison |
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I was reading today about thinning out plants and dividing them etc and it says to do it when they are in their full growing season as they will heal better from the places where they are cut. I just thought I would comment on it as you said you were planning on thinning out in october and Ray didn't know when to do it. Surely most plants will have finished flowering and growing by then. The book says that if it is done in the growing season there is less chance of them rotting where they have been cut.Hope that might help. I am just about to cut back my lily as it has raised up to the surface. pics can be found of it on www.the-horsfalls.co.uk/forum
Alison |
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I remove dead and dying vegetation in late Autumn and thin/divide plants in Spring.
Sue |
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Thats a good idea Sue. That way not much is left in the pond to cause toxins for the winter and then thining and cutting just as they start their growing season. I have just finished repotting the lily and managed to get a few plants off it and some nodules ready from the ryzome to do cuttings. I had a happy afternoon paddling in the pond! I was filthy and wet and my back is paying for it but it was fun.
Alison |
RE: Thinning out plants
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| Most of my tadpoles emerged as froglets in July, but a few are still in the pond as tadpoles. I have heard from a relative of a friend doing a PHd in frogs that a few will overwinter as tadpoles if there isn't quite enough food in the pond to ensure the full number develop. But, they should develop normally next year and turn into froglets. Regarding thinning out, my advice is do major thinning out in spring, when plants are putting on a spurt and can cope with it, but in Autumn trim and ensure that nothing is going to die back and decay into the pond. Cheers,
Paula |
RE: Thinning out plants
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- Posted by Aitch NW England (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 26, 05 at 11:20
| Hi Just on the tadpoles not maturing thing, we normally have quite a few each year that stay as tadpoles over winter - does this mean we should be feeding them if they don't change into froglets? Any advice welcome, I'd hate to think I was starving the poor things! |
RE: Thinning out plants
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| from what I've understood, don't think you need to worry about feeding over winter...they'll just sink to bottom in mud & then develop next spring. |
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